foreign
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so Lindsay Jackson is a CEO and
co-founder of the anike tech business
called platform
she's been working with open source
Technologies for over 15 years with
involvement in many communities such as
Drupal govhak EFA open Agriculture and
other things
in Regional South Australia she is a
passionate person
in wanting to bring technology
experiences to those living outside the
major production centers in the
community and inspiring them to use
technology to express themselves and
realize their aspirations
a committed advocate for inclusion
diversity and digital skill development
she believes that broadcasting
participation in Tech has the power to
enrich and transform Regional lives
communities economies and main streets
so please take it away Lindsay
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thank you
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thank you so much uh thank you for
having me because
um it's such a privilege oh it's very
bright it's such a privilege to be able
to do a Keynotes this is um this is my
first keynote on this topic and just
even the process of having to put it
together and uh they're really long uh
thinking about all of that um was was a
really was a really great process
um so thank you very much and also I
should also thank you for the Linux
grant that we got earlier in the year to
create a project in Regional South
Australia for young people that have
aspirations of getting into digital
digital technology gaming design things
like that so you can see a little bit of
information about that um in the book
annual report as well so thank you
okay this is going to get a little bit
feisty but the light is so bright I
can't see anyone's faces so I'm just
going to pretend that you're all taking
it
um so I hate to be the one to tell you
this but everyone in this community
whether you're whether you're in the
room or not carries the burden of being
a person with privilege and with
privilege comes responsibility and the
world right now is at a point where it's
[ __ ] and if people don't do something
about it and every one of us are people
and because you're technologists you
have a higher burden than most
I'm sorry to be the bearer of this bad
news
but I'm also going to help you so you
don't have to worry
viscerally I hate talking about myself
if this was a psychology conference
maybe we would say it's because I'm a
woman and I'm used to silencing myself
around men who don't want to hear me
speak and women are in fact conditioned
like that from a young age particularly
ones who grow up in small country towns
who have trading men or Furniture
removalist men or farmer men in their
Social Circles
uh now I've done this thing where I
can't move my thing
um or maybe we would try and diagnose my
neurodiversity and a lot of people have
been doing that lately so we're on to
the first slide where we have Paris
Hilton she's just released a biography
and she talks about her ADHD so that's
about to become hot which is exciting
and she describes it
she describes it as her superpower
for those of you under 30 who don't know
who Paris is her series the simple life
with Nicole Richie is television gold
and trust me watch it you'll thank me
later
and on that I do want to thank you on
Tuesday for bringing his ADHD diagnosis
to the stage I don't want to make you
feel even more uncomfortable but
statistically speaking I bet there is a
lot of neurodiversity in this audience
but today I am going to talk about me
because it's going to allow us to build
trust and because I am anybody and now
this is not working oh
um because I'm anybody and that's going
to help you to see how you can be
somebody ah there we go I'll give you
this slide how about that
trying to convince you how technical I
am and I can't get this working oh my
God
um for us to really connect you're going
to have to decide if I'm similar enough
to you and I suggest you're going to
have to decide if I'm really a geek is
she the real deal
but first i'm going to acknowledge my
privilege I'm going to tell you about a
whole lot of barriers that I face but
I'm white I was born in Australia and I
have access had access to a quality
education system and I have the capacity
health and personality to build
confidence to navigate systems and I'm
also going to acknowledge that we're
still in a global pandemic and that
clovert is an ongoing Health crisis
we're all in this room because of the
privilege of our health or how we
perceive our health and there are many
in this community that are still living
in isolation to preserve their safety
because of society's broader lack of
precaution
foreign
and then let me acknowledge that we're
on the land of the naan people that
sovereignty was never seated and that
we'll have an upcoming referendum on
First Nations acknowledgment in the
Constitution and that Australia has a
terrible racist recent history of the
abhorrent treatment of indigenous people
which is still part of our society and
our structures and attitudes today
let's begin
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so I grew up in a small community in
South Australia it used to be 5 000
people and now it's 6 000 people and
there are three yeah there are three
towns so about 18 000 people and the
council are currently rebranding the
three towns to be a city of the city of
the copper coast and many people are
very anxious about this
when you're a young person growing up in
country towns in the late 90s all you
want to do is leave now I live there by
choice
condos mostly it does have epic beaches
and no traffic and sometimes a lack of
external stimulation is good for
business and high functioning Minds
sometimes
and I don't really know how young people
feel about living and growing up in the
community anymore because young people
are hidden the over 65 Community is the
only one that gets to matter they're the
ones that are visible and they're the
ones that complain a lot
when I was 19 I was feeling really lost
and this feeling of having times or I
feel lost is one that carries through my
next 20ish years as a theme and I think
other people relate to this as well so
I'm going to reference these moments in
case you do relate
I went to a talk in a really
disadvantaged part of Adelaide and that
talk shaped the direction of my life
just like that
the presentation was from a person
called Peter Kenyon who consults with an
organization called the bank of ideas on
Regional development and he reframed
what I thought about Community young
people and capacity
so I end up doing my apprenticeship with
him for a number of years and the key
Concepts that framed that work was
building Social Capital which relates to
the social norms the networks and the
trust that facilitates cooperation
within and between groups asset-based
Community Development and appreciative
inquiry and I can leave you to look at
look up those terms but if I recall
correctly Donna gave a talk on
appreciative inquiry at a drupalcomm
that I attended so these concepts of
community framing have likely made it
their way into this community as well
realized or not
care about community and
entrepreneurialism especially a social
entrepreneurialism and regions My First
Act was to join the neighborhood watch
Group which is really just local citizen
surveillance with the police stopping by
to drop some gossip and see if anyone
had any intel to share
that's what it is yeah
absolutely on Tuesday and Pia's talk
this is the first time I'd heard someone
note this but she noted that because
Australia was set up as a penal colony
our systems of government have been set
up to be punitive and this gives a lot
of insight into our systems and
structures and why we as a nation are a
bunch of dibber dobbers
white Australians anyway
actually with Diva dobbers but we're
also [ __ ] at speaking up so I remember
during this time reading a small article
that if eight people complained about
television reception to akmora however
they'd look into it eight so that was
when I first had a data point on what it
took to get government attention because
Australians don't want to be seen as
whinges very few people complain so
eight people making a complaint was
significant and that's pretty wild when
you think about it
and moved back to the country for a
couple of years and during this time I
started getting involved in things like
consultations and focus group style
things so one example is where someone
was writing a youth policy so there was
a listening tour and our voices were
listened to and reports were written
and actually I went to about a half a
dozen of these sorts of things in a
short period of time and they had the
same theme and the same outcome but once
I got pizza and twenty dollars for
participating and that was awesome
in Australia we love writing reports and
doing listening and avoiding real work
to make change because doing things as
is hard and our political Cycles are
short
and I started to realize that there was
an entire system set up to amplify my
disadvantage and not only that an
industry jobs livelihood reliant on my
disadvantage I was a statistic a female
youth living in a regional town from a
single parent household University
Dropout twice at that point
grown-ups needed funding because their
data showed I was disadvantaged and that
if you grew up in my area you're
statistically likely to be a massive
loser
and so that shapes things and it still
does and 20 years on in my region this
in Regional Australia the statistics are
no better what we're doing isn't working
but back then it's okay I'm an
optimistic Youth and I believe that
people can change the world and I am
people so I can help change the world
and I just get more resilient more
optimistic more skilled and I guess more
defiant
so when I was 26
um I just moved back to my regional town
again and I had my first baby and I have
this theme of being stuck in a regional
town with a baby which means a lot of
free time and a lot of free time with
pressure and hormones and lack of sleep
and feeling pretty [ __ ] as the next
big career move goes and lost and
remember above times of feeling lost
that happens at these points too
luckily it was the era of Kevin 07 and
as part of new prime minister Kevin
Rudd's first thing he held a 2020 Summit
and a thousand people from 10 streams
were invited and I having no idea on
what to do next in my life take this as
a possible sign
embolden buy a glass of red wine I email
Tim Costello he was the CEO of global
charity World Vision and was leading one
of the streams and we'd had a recent
interaction at a recent event and I
write to him and asked if I can attend
and I'm told how to apply
and when the list of attendees is
published online my name is on it and I
go and I meet someone who would become
my boss and I would spend the next
eightish years building in Joomla and
Drupal and a bit of Civic CRM for
not-for-profits and government
organizations
one of the biggest impacts we can make
as a community is to make easier
transitions for people who come into
Tech via accidental opportunity
and that includes the career pass once
you're in it is a hard industry to
navigate especially if you don't have
the right connections or if you're not
the right type of person technology is
an accident or a trouble finding work
happens far too frequently for women and
other underrepresented groups
a lack of diversity in in the community
and Industry in fact any community and
Industry is a huge problem and a risk
and if we look around this room which I
can't do because it's so bright
um but it is lacking in diversity gender
culture race age we're not
representative of society or even the
Australian technical community and
groups that are not representative can
become irrelevant or lazy or dangerous
spending 20 years with Community groups
in Regional areas all they ever want to
know is how do we get young people to
attend and 20 years ago when they said
young people they meant under 50.
now they're men under 17.
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regeneration is really difficult we
naturally see communities established
grow together and then age out
and if we let the Mage out they die out
and we lose the structures and the
governance Frameworks but changing
Community groups is hard because it
means the people in them have to
intentionally change how they see
themselves and their role and they may
have to step down step back or step
aside and asking yourself am I relevant
could someone else be doing more with
this privilege or can I let go and see
others make changes that I know will
cause some issues can be hard to do but
communities do age out and need to
change
and I need you to pause here and think
about our own technical communities and
where they are because I am seeing a lot
of them aging out and it's not because
you're old per se but because the reason
that Geeks built these communities was
to build careers build skills and build
friendships and if you're not in that
place anymore that's fine but of course
there are young people that need those
things today
could make new spaces I guess
but what if they don't or can't and do
we really want them to go do community
elsewhere
but back to my life
as I was building the national
homelessness at the national
Clearinghouse for homelessness in Joomla
which would later be deleted from the
server when the political ambition of
halving homelessness by 2030 was
discarded by the next minister
I realized that technology was the
enabler for everything I aspired to
create support and build community
and everything that I in and then with
that I embarked on 11ish years or so of
talking to other people about technology
and Community with neither side really
having any idea about the other when I
tried to talk to them
oops my phone
smush this up when I tried to combine
the two and even though a lot has
changed Society still feels really
uncomfortable with technology and their
capability to have control over it or
make decisions about it and I see this
in all facets that I operate in
as technologists we've done a wonderful
job of building so many great tools and
we should be very proud the alignment
between the worlds isn't fully there but
it is so so close well done to us
during this period of my life I built
over 100 sites for not-for-profit and
government organizations around
Australia and lots of them are still
live today and I turned people who had
never touched a CMS in before
intercontent administrators and that was
wonderful and honestly also unless he
just did work and paid bills and lived
I didn't know that I was about to hit
another one of those life moments
the web company that I was working for
closed for lots of business and Tech
Trend reasons pregnant I'd taken over as
CEO to try to turn it around but it
wasn't to be and I once again found
myself with a tiny baby in a regional
town no job with all of my thoughts and
all of my drive to make the world a
better place and nowhere to channel it
so I start doing what I know community
building and the first step was to
infiltrate the Drupal Community because
I had zero connections and everything
that I wanted to be building was in
Drupal so I needed to have more deaf
friends
and that my friends is a hard Community
to crack
unnecessarily hard and I would argue to
their detriment but I'll save
elaboration on this for when I'm invited
to do a keynote at one of their events
thank you
I did become very successful at it
though and I have connected with many
wonderful people from all over the world
and have had some excellent
opportunities arise I'm not disparaging
by any means but it's tough to love to
build in something when progression
feels like an uphill battle
but of course even though communities
can can contain share I keep jumping on
um
even though communities can contain
frustrating barriers and blockers we
know that building things with
like-minded people and having shared
goals of openness transparency and
knowledge sharing is powerful and
wonderful
open source communities are very similar
to Regional communities Collective good
shared Vision skin in the game and the
thing that struck me the most about the
community that I hadn't experienced
before was technical privilege in
Regional Community Development and in
the not-for-profit sector we have great
great people Amazing Ideas huge
potential but never any money and
admittedly it's a sector that does
better than the Arts but in technology
communities we have the ability to build
and the specialized technical expertise
to charge and I know there are times
when open source in particular feels
thankless and that the community edges
we've struggle to find sustainable
models of sustainable funding or pay
people a living wage for necessary
Community Management work but I once did
a talk and had the costs of the the
costs of my flight overseas to deliver
it covered
mind blown like that does and that does
not happen
and we hold these conferences and we'd
listen to these speakers and they are
phenomenal in their knowledge and
insight and their friends and colleagues
so they just kind of seem ordinary but
they're not and I don't think we come
anywhere close to utilizing this talent
and exposing other people's in in
society to their greatness and that
could be something that we work on
let me give you a few slides when I did
a thing with all this technical
knowledge and Community tools and
internet access
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oh here we go
robodet was a breach of the trust by the
government when it came to technology
and data and honestly I don't know how
we're going to win this back
we had this era of open gov open the gov
hack open data gov CMS technology and
open technology in the public service
was gaining momentum and then we saw
that trust broken
and while trust in government was being
dismantled the Community Trust through
roboda advocacy through not my debt and
in open and closed communities online
was growing
there's a I'll give you some little
pictures let's do a little pictures
these are pictures that was sent to me
throughout the campaign
This Is Us
someone was in the in the UK and they
had jet lag and so they had a lot of
time where they were awake and I'd just
wake up and they'd send me these things
and then their Twitter account would get
deleted it was very strange
I'm Regional activism
Israel they need young people in their
groups
framework of
work of change called Collective impact
and I like to think of the robodet
movement as being an example of
collective impact with not my debt as
the backbone organization
people did a lot of things completely
independent of us but we had a role in
curating connecting and disseminating
information and building trust and
community support and of course actually
helping people
Robo deck connected me to the world of
digital rides and thinking about what to
do next a call for board positions to
electronic Frontiers Australia came up
so I took the plunge and ended up being
chair for four years
sitting on a board is a great way to
actively participate unfortunately none
of our digital rights or technical
communities have any funding and being
volunteer run makes things incredibly
hard
in Australia we're also pretty [ __ ] at
joining member organizations
um so if there is something you can do
or if you're in a position to support a
paid one even better and if you're in a
team or you're a manager or an owner of
a team tell them about the groups that
are out there encourage them to join we
all need fresh energy talent and ideas
I'm going to take you to take you a
moment to give you all the lecture here
in case you didn't think the rest of
this is a lecture
in my five years on the board the
times were when people felt entitled to
cause disruption Place demands and put
their rudeness onto me or other board
members
toxic Behavior takes the very limited
capability from people who are working
for you for free and directs it to
people management and wasted energy it
means all other functions of the group
stop people become upset and even
question why they're doing anything at
all
someone
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and when these issues build up and
people feel attacked the trust that we
work so hard to build and maintain
breaks down
I've had so many Amazing Ideas while
being on the EFA board and I have heard
countless more from other people but the
harsh and sad reality is that ideas mean
very little when you lack the resources
and ability to action them simply if you
don't want to do it yourself it is very
hard to impose it on others to do in
their free time and that's how
priorities get made if you want things
to be different show up participate do
the work
thank you
but when it comes to digital rights the
community is not the enemy our enemy
from Where I Stood was the government I
consider myself to be a politically
active person but I had no idea how
politicized policy was until I saw how
digital and Technology policy worked
bills that were worked on for two years
by policy makers in government would get
dropped with no warning and four weeks
to respond
oh I'm so I'm supposed to be oh no I
haven't
about
this bill
the assistance and access film yeah
so the politicization of this policy is
something that every technologist should
understand and there's a lot of elements
to that but I'm just going to talk about
a few
firstly the rhetoric of the rules of
mathematics do not apply in Australia
and
and the impact of undermining encryption
just and destroying trust in Australian
software and Developers
secondly the way the Australian
Technical Community was barely consulted
let alone the digital rights Community
it is far easier for government to tick
the boxes of consultation by talking to
Google Facebook Twitter and the like and
why because they hire government
relation managers whose job it is to
manage influence and placate ministers
and staffers who don't understand the
technology or the nuance
laws relating to Human Rights and
Technology are not something any country
should rush or put under a veil of
secret secrecy yet that's how the
Australian government has done things
and they do it because we let them you
and I
and thirdly I think it's significant to
note the way Paul this this particular
policy was made into law on the 6th of
December it was the last sitting day of
parliament for the year when this when
this assistance when the assistance and
access bill was passed the then labor or
position in supporting it used the
process of how bills move between the
houses to wedge through the medivac
legislation that allowed sick refugees
and people seeking asylum in offshore
detention to be brought to Australia
I had never seen anything like it before
a [ __ ] show of evil policy because we
feel entitled as a nation to break
encryption and lock up humans on islands
and then we politicized it
we bundle up digital policy with defense
and counter-terrorism which means
politically both sides ultimately agree
with each other because in Australia the
only thing was politically than looking
like someone who is tough who is who's
not tough on crime is looking like
you're not tough on terrorism and what
does encryption have to do with a boomer
thinking about retirement and protecting
their negative gearing policy nothing
from volunteering on and working with
netting Australia's reboot of the
internet governance Forum an observation
I have is that the stance of the igf
community to avoid taking positions on
policy and rather be a place of
discussion debate and ideas while Noble
isn't that helpful for politicians at
the end of the day they do need policies
to pull out of their pocket it's one of
their jobs so writing policy and
position taking are all important and we
should do more of it at a
multi-stakeholder level ideally
but our Collective actions have not been
in vain so don't let me discourage you
I'm giving you insight into the system
and the process and if you want things
to be different what's needed we have
been successful in creating momentum and
holding back bad policy and every time
you make a phone call to an MP or you
make a submission to a consultation you
make a difference even making a
submission with something as simple as I
do not agree with or support this policy
helps remember how I told you about
Australia's low participation rate in
apathy small ripples make waves
so major little activity list over here
and have a look at this
think about the things that you can do
let's touch back on the rope on robodet
and the Royal Commission because the
hearings for that just wrapped up last
week
and achieving a royal commission is is
is a huge is a huge thing and a big win
for the community
um you know
[ __ ] show I won't even go there
it was easy to be cynical about the
Royal Commission because as they go this
one has been underfunded and given a
tight time frame although the
commissioner has extended it but it has
turned out to be extraordinary they've
over 500 000 documents have been tended
Morrison Turnbull Porter Taj Robert
Payne six former ministers two of whom
were Prime Ministers were called to give
evidence
the testimonies that people have given
confirm what the community knew saw and
were told we were right about the
department culture the willfulness to
cause harm the ideology the illegality
and The Lure of topping up the budget
for votes
fortunately through not my with not my
debt were able to have legal assistance
to put together our submission
and not my debt was a movement led by
women mostly in Regional communities and
it's a lesson in not underestimating
women especially when given digital
tools to amplify and accelerate their
abilities
one of the volunteers who we can only
refer to as Kay because she's concerned
about government retaliation has
personally helped thousands of people
and with her amazing work combined with
our community manager and strategist Amy
Patterson our submission to the Royal
commission reads like a handbook in into
digital movement building and it's a
really great read
so with the remaining time I'm going to
talk to you about what I'm doing now
because I think it's an area that's one
of the greatest Technical and people
challenges of our time
so I've ended up with an AG tech company
and I ended up with an AG tech company
and with an app
and I got into Apps because I started
working on a digital identity app at a
time when gdpr was coming in blockchain
was hot and that was about four or so
years ago now but it is really
interesting how far the public has come
on their attitudes towards privacy and
data in that time obviously Big Data
links and public inconvenience certainly
help
but now I'm in this
so now I'm in this specialized area of
AG
and what we do is grow things in a
straight line and agriculture kind of
boils down to this if it's not animals
we're not talking about animals but
everything we grow is either in a
paddock or in a line like a robe
um and so I enter the AG Tech AG Tech
Community and there's there's not a lot
of tech in it it's really been a
community that we've had to work on to
build up and to develop but this app had
a really great idea and the great idea
was to put Precision farming into the
hands of farmers bring in data so they
could make localized decisions on what
to put on their crops and where and then
the app turns into a tracking app on the
phone GPS because there are millions of
tractors in the world with no technology
at all
I take on the CTO role and I get this
app built we get it built really well
it's got an amazing back end it's lean
it's smart it uses map box sophisticated
data sharing that looks easy it's
actually pretty hot but no one can use
it
because none of this none of the none of
the rows none of this digital
infrastructure has been mapped so while
we've been mapping all of these other
things like using openstreetmaps and all
of these other mapping projects no one's
been mapping foundational information
that farmers need and need to be able to
grow food and so without that digital
mapping there's nowhere to layer the
data onto there's nowhere to layer the
data and then there's no discussions
about data so Growers are anxious about
how their data is going to be used we
haven't created any data licensing
models that talk about data sovereignty
who gets to own what what happens when
it moves around how we do that with
consent
so it's been a real challenge in moving
into an area with huge issues and a lack
of digital infrastructure and trying to
figure out how to actually do anything
about it and get people to understand
that are not technical why these things
are so important
in most of regional Australia a farmers
experience with tech isn't great
ubiquitous connectivity is Elusive and
the advice they get is really complete
and they've all spent money on things
that don't work so why would they have
faith in other applications yet we in
this room know that data AI Federated
learning is the way of the future and
that these things could help farmers and
the systems of people and organizations
that support them
but that system is broken there's a lot
of money for ideas as long as those
ideas come from universities and other
safe institutions and we all know how
poorly they do at scale
commercialization and action or maybe
I'm just the only one that does I feel
like everyone should know and it leaves
VCS but now we've got Silicon Valley
Bank collapsing it's going to mean that
people become even more risk adverse and
VCS are already out of their depth with
ag tag or with funding big complex ideas
that matter give them a SAS product you
can throw Google AdWords out set and
forget and make heaps of money and
they're comfortable with that but big
digital challenges no
um so that's been a really interesting
area to get into and it's really quite
scary
um and so I'm going to leave you with my
ask
um and my ask is what I want to leave
you with and what I want you to do and
maybe start by going home on the weekend
and watching Mad Max and start to become
very concerned about the future of the
world and where we're going in a few
years
those floods that we've stopped
reporting on they've just dragged crops
and interrupted the supply chain
dramatic weather events are going to be
the norm with with rain or without
and don't think that people in the
regions are taking care of things
Regional communities are struggling
farmers are aging out young people are
not returning so this is a global issue
because food is a global issue and so
the hope is technology and technology
that technology makes things it makes
things better it makes things more
interesting and it's fun so I'd like
everyone here to think about what you
can build and share and get vocal your
political influence is significant so
ask questions because if we don't have
food security people are going to start
getting really annoyed
foreign
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I do have some time for questions if
anyone has any questions
all the arrows in my talk
yeah
um
they should practice those
yeah absolutely you should be caring
about the Privacy Act and the review of
reforms to the Privacy Act which is
actually it is actually a good win and
do we have Justin here yeah
you are hello So Justin's the chair of
EFA what is EFA
so we can you can join EFA make calls
make some Make Some Noise about this I
mean I think I never want to be too
optimistic about government but but we
do have a different government
um and so we could go into that
government with some hope and some
optimism
um and we've a review is a is a good
thing
um the community is really concerned
about privacy so it means that what the
public is looking for is action and then
what the politicians are looking for is
the technical response from this
community around the things that we we
can do and we have always been an
influential group when it comes to um to
technology policy so don't don't let me
discourage you um because it is it is it
is really important and I saw through it
my time with EFA the impact that this
community has made over many years
anything else yeah
I live about
the drive from
what ideas will enforce around getting
if not more technical startups but even
a larger business to actually bring a
little bit more
work to the regions working remotely is
probably been a big benefit for some
regions
is there anything else anything
yeah one of the first I'd be asking for
it
covered has the opportunity with covert
to move and as things have moved online
has done a few things one that's made
people think about where we're living
and what lifestyle looks like so people
have started moving to the regions it's
actually putting huge pressure on
housing and other services in the region
so people are trying to respond to that
I sit on a board and as soon as there as
soon as it was clear that covert was an
issue I got everyone on that board to
move to video conferencing and some of
these are people that you would have to
drag them Kicking and Screaming to even
consider this and they love it and now
they get it because you can have
meetings you know we've all been doing
meetings and work and things online and
now that is understood throughout
Regional communities that that's an
effective way to work it it gets things
done businesses realize that and policy
makers and people that were in cities
and trying to deliver services or
monitor things were going in regions
they had to talk to people in the
regions so a lot of capacity building
also happened within leadership within
the regions and that should be something
that we we maintain
I think that there's a huge opportunity
for
um even Main Street Renewal and
revitalization of how we think about
Regional towns and one of the first
things is actually to start asking for
that sort of space I've been looking for
a space in my Regional Community because
I want to put some young people in and
get them mapping and their great
entry-level tech jobs but every single
building or Community Asset or anything
that's useful it's just got a group of
over 65s in it and there's just there's
just no there's just no space but anyone
everyone you know having a job and being
able to bring economy to the area and
potential jobs to the area you have a
huge amount of social capital and
influence over your councils and they
only mainly hear from people that are
complaining about the roads and the
footpaths so give them something more
interesting to think about and they are
also really interesting grants and I
I've been looking at Grants for a long
time and a few years ago you just
couldn't put anything digital into a
grant it was just it was never going to
connect with someone that understood it
in any way but that's really changing
now and I'd really like to see openness
and sharing around around those things
one of the things that we found that we
had to do with with stuff with platform
and in the agriculture sector was I
built a Drupal site called collabora
culture where we could just start to put
collaborative information and open
information about things relating to
farming and AG Tech we set up a git
repository we created an open database
structure for managing this sort of
mapping and rows so doing some of that
intentional infrastructure stuff and
applying those things that we do in open
source communities to some of those
Community challenges but doing it in an
open way and kind of pointing at how
easy this stuff is because people in
regions think things are very very
difficult and we know that things are
actually really really easy and so it
really helps them when they see the
things that could be spun up quite
quickly or used and tested quite quickly
that's okay
anything else good
morning thank you very much Lindsay for
that presentation and
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